No, shimrod, I don't expect you to rediscover anything.....just to make your arguments from experimental, testable, observable science. For example, there is no debate now that allegedly deep time artifacts like dino bone contain soft tissue that according to measured rates of decay should not be there. That is an argument from the data that accords with testable etc science. Deciding that evolutionism is true, therefore there must be another explanation is a faith factor IMO.