they don't 'win' anything at all!
Couldn't give a toss whether they win or lose - just wnat them to go away and am prepared to allow them to humiliate themselves -
a - Until they do
or - b as a second best
Either way, the result is the same.
I really have tried to ignore him in the hope he'll go away - doesn't work - he's like a cold sore - you have to let him run his course.
Remind me - have I ever told you what or what not to post - apologies if I have - extremely bad manners - not to mention a tad undemocratic.
Jim Carroll