'it's heaven for poor eastern europeans but hell for young scots' i'd say poverty and lack of opportunity is hell for anyone - no matter where they are from. immigrants are doing their best to improve their lives and given a chance will do what they can to improve the areas they arrive in. i've been out of work a few times and twice moved up to aberdeenshire (from cumbria) for care jobs. i wouldn't say it was heaven but it was a beautiful area and good for my family. anyone have a problem with that?

'we need to train our own young people to run our public services rather than rely on cheaper immigrants'

our public services need to be properly financed and run, the staff trained and with secure jobs. this isn't happening, and in the care sector, never has. not the fault of immigrants, it's the fault of the fucked up values of our system.

the people who currently run the system are surely not 'decent'- the people who excuse or them should maybe take a closer look at the realities of the problem. it's capitalism, not people.