Pete, my poor deluded fellow, you've admitted time and time again that you have not read Origin, so kindly spare me the bullshit. As for Dawkins on Youtube, well give us a link or two, preferably annotated with your wise takes. I'd really like to know exactly what it is he says that raises your hackles so. I ask only because I need you to disabuse me of this ever-so-slight suspicion I seem to be harbouring that you're full of shit. Any help you could provide in this regard would be appreciated.