I don't recall ridiculing your appreciation of art. This is a very strange tangent you're taking. My mind is wide open to art in all its manifestations as it happens. Telling me I condemn a man with a beard is also somewhat odd, as I think there almost certainly isn't one (and I haven't mentioned beards once). There's just a little bit of ganging up going on here isn't there? You are both insinuating that I have such a ridiculously simplistic view of God that you somehow can't discuss this. But I think we all know what's really going on here. I've asked you a straight down the line child-like question: do you believe in a supernatural God who created everything? I haven't even mentioned gender in that question, let alone beards. Either you do, you don't, or you have some wildly different concept that you think I'll ridicule. Or that I won't be clever enough to get. Go on, try us. Just telling me that it isn't as simple as that, ha ha, is making both of you look a bit daft, to be honest. You're the ones that have, on the face of it, the outlandish concept, not me. If it is so dear to your hearts, which I can clearly see that it is, you shouldn't be worrying about feeling foolish by elaborating. Elaborate away. I'm interested and I'm listening. And it would be nice if you could avoid the rather unchristian-sounding insults.