The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #158296   Message #3746614
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Oct-15 - 03:51 PM
Thread Name: BS: Tory party conference
Subject: RE: BS: Tory party conference
"Give an example.
Belligerent Orange marches just "a pleasant family day out" will do for a start
Irish famine refugees depicted as apes - just the humour of the time.
Remind me how much effort you put in to claim that "no Irish Need Apply" notices didn't exist.
Didn't you describe generations of Irish children as "having been brainwashed" - or was that someone else?
"That shows how out of touch with reality your views are."
No it doesn't.
Back in the day, no respectable party would openly use race as an election issue, if immigration surfaced during an election campaign as "playing the race card" - now it is the policy of all parties, as you have just stated.
Enoch Powell was rejected by his party for his attack on immigrants - now they are common utterances
Since those balmy Blair days you couldn't squeeze a credit card between the policies of all the major parties - all different shades of the same extremism and all coalescent - as elections have shown
You failed miserably to show there is a left-wing press - now show us a left--wing political party.
Still no examples of countries supporting Israeli atrocities in any shape or form - both Cameron and Obama condemned last year's bloodbath and they were informed that they could no longer rely on a US veto to lift them out of the klarts - so much for support.
"Give an example of France or any Western government accusing them of atrocities"
I said they'd ignored the atrocities (no question that they have, we watched a lot of them on tele last year - I said they have ignored them - you suggested that they supported them - where has any govenment supported last years bloodbath, the settlemts policy, the Sabra Shatila massacre, the ethnic cleansing of the Bedouins, the use of chemical weapons on civilians, the destruction of hospitals and schools, the creation of an Apartheid State, the attempts to sell weapons to Apartheid South Africa.... where is the support you claim? SILENCE IS NOT SUPPORT – Israel has been accused of extremism and atrocities by virtually all human rights organisations – if they had the support you claim, we would be deafened by protests of Israel's innocence WHERE ARE THESE PROTESTS – WHY IS THE WORLD SILENT ON THESE INJUSTICES?
One sure sign of right wing extremism it a total acceptance of all actions of the state - classic fascism - you have at not time criticised or accepted criticism of this Governments right wing policies - you have never at any time criticised or accepted Briticism of Israel's ethnic cleansing - you have never at any time accepted the criticism of the neural human rights groups which have unanimously condemned Israeli behavour towards the Palestinians - instead, you have uncritically put the arguments of the Israeli regime - if this is not the case - show us where you have.   
You are an extreme right wing extremist Keith   
You have just been given two examples of leading western governments   
"We have NEVER seen immigration on the present scale at any time in history."
And we have never treated immigrants the way they are being treated now - just imagine a pre-war government chasing the Jews back to where they came from - exactly what is happening today)
Your national socialism may not support the immigrants and refugees - my socialism does - socialism in international, not national (something entirely different and with a track record to prove it)   
The West helped create the immigration crisis - they should not be allowed to walk away from that fact.
Jim Carroll