The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #158223   Message #3749479
Posted By: Bill D
09-Nov-15 - 10:00 AM
Thread Name: BS: The Pope in America
Subject: RE: BS: The Pope in America
"The same applies to someone who says he sees God when looking at a starry night."

Well Steve, as weak as that seems to you & me, it is exactly the type of 'evidence' that appeals to many. They say something like... "here we are, with all the universe around us, as well as birds & bees and bananas... and something must have created them." Pete uses a form of that 'proof' regularly. It is very like Dr. Johnson making fun of solipism:

"Here, from the Life of Johnson (1791), Boswell speaks, recounting Johnson's famous refutation of solipsism sans the term solipsism..."

**After we came out of the church, we stood talking for some time together of Bishop Berkeley's ingenious sophistry to prove the nonexistence of matter, and that every thing in the universe is merely ideal. I observed, that though we are satisfied his doctrine is not true, it is impossible to refute it. I never shall forget the alacrity with which Johnson answered, striking his foot with mighty force against a large stone, till he rebounded from it -- "I refute it thus.""

*shrug* "Proof" just is understood differently by many, and it is very hard to change minds on such a seemingly simple idea.