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Thread #158223   Message #3749992
Posted By: Steve Shaw
11-Nov-15 - 05:17 AM
Thread Name: BS: The Pope in America
Subject: RE: BS: The Pope in America
Well, over forty percent of you are. I can sum up the posts by Kevin and Joe thus: You can believe whatever you like (agreed!) but it doesn't matter whether all or any of it can be substantiated by reason and evidence. Science with its Spock-like demands for logic needn't get in the way. We are beyond all that in our beliefs, and our God can be anything we make him, regardless of any laws of nature. Well, lads, what's there to argue with! You wish to put God in a place where's he's invulnerable to attack from the likes of me, and if I do try to apply the very human demands for reason and evidence to him, you'll just use language to shift him a bit further away still. Not very original really. It worked in the Middle Ages when I could have been beheaded for pursuing the matter, but it's looking mighty thin these days as the questions pile in on you and your answers show all the signs of desperate quasi-philosophical scrabbling

Joe Offer, you can't say what you say about God and evolution until you understand what evolution actually is. You appear to have a rather stylised and romanticated view of it. There is no way of blending creation and evolution or giving God a role. You are valiantly trying to sidestep a conflict that your Church has long realised is a losing battle and you're praying we won't notice the sidestep.