Shimrod, personal attacks like the last one on Pete are uncalled for in a debating forum......I thought with the removal of the Muskets, all that nonsense had been binned along with them.

This has been a good thread, lots of interesting posts and hardly any agro, but you are starting to sound like a bully who just wants to intimidate pete.   I remember a number of years ago when YOU were the butt of such intimidation, and a lot of posters myself included rallied round to condemn the aggressor.....maybe you don't remember that?

Pete's beliefs don't affect you or society in the slightest, this is simply a discussion a sharing of ideas, don't get things out of proportion.