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Thread #158223   Message #3751667
Posted By: GUEST,#
17-Nov-15 - 02:47 PM
Thread Name: BS: The Pope in America
Subject: RE: BS: The Pope in America
"It is not Christian faith that is being challenged by observational, repeatable and testable science . . . ."

That's one proposition, but faith itself isn't reasonable as a factor in debate. Faith--which I don't mind in people--is simply the magic card that gets played when facts aren't convenient.

"It is not Christian faith that is being challenged by observational, repeatable and testable science but the evolutionary faith."

That's another argument. People who study evolution as a science eventually have to put up or shut up. They know that. They may have 'faith' they are or aren't on the right track, but they will need proof eventually. And there's the rub.

I challenge anyone to watch and record the next twenty license plates they encounter. Record only the first two numbers on the plate. Stop when you get to twenty numbers. I'll give fhree to one odds that two of the two digit numbers will match. (Remember, there are all the numbers between 00 and 99 that could come up.) If anyone will play ten games, you're on. I will most likely win, no faith involved. It's just how the odds are and odds are just a short way of saying probability.

I have many friends who are religious--one brand or another. I am happy for them because in general their god is kind. But I don't stick around too long when one's faith gets into any discussion about science. That is something I feel my friends should talk about with others who feel as they do. I have great tolerance for people whether or not they agree with me, but soon as their god gets into it I'm outta there. It's tough being the only atheist at the church service :-)

Anyway, pete, you keep being the guy you are, because if faith works for you that's cool with me. I disagree with your science, but then I disagree with much that humans think and do and so far it ain't changed nothin' ;-)