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Thread #158817 Message #3761087
Posted By: Teribus
27-Dec-15 - 08:01 AM
Thread Name: History and mythology of WW1
Subject: RE: History and mythology of WW1
Well thank you for that Raggy - probably the first time that you have answered a direct question with a direct and straightforward answer.
Now toddle off and compare how long it took Montgomery to learn the lessons Haig had to learn - you will find that Haig was a far quicker learner and a far greater innovator, especially when you take into consideration that Haig faced the best the German Army could throw against him for his entire time as Commander. The BEF in 1914 survived as an effective fighting unit, the BEF in 1940 was thrown out of France and ceased to exist. The most successful offensive campaign ever carried out by the British Army in its entire existence? Haig's 100 days campaign in 1918 NOT Montgomery either in North Africa or in Northern Europe.
Montgomery fought two battles where manoeuvre wasn't an option at Alamein and in the Normandy Landings he chose attrition as his weapon of choice through necessity, Haig on the western front between 1915 and 1918 never had any other choice, and it was Haig who developed the tactics that enabled armies to break the stalemate NOT Montgomery. Kiggell apart from being sacked from his Liaison job with the French appears to have been of no significance whatsoever.
During the course of the First World War 9 out of every 10 men who joined up survived.
During the course of the Second World War 9 out of every 10 men who joined up survived.
And for Nameless GUEST:
"The terms and procedures of some Court Martial trials did not follow the law prevailing at the time. Study of court documents and correspondence between Generals in the field and the War Office, and between The War Office and the judiciary make it quite clear that there were political decisions for expediency. By definition" They were carried out with procedures agreed to and in force at the time.
Over two years to come up with one single instance of a summary execution as described by the likes of Jom the infallible, i.e. a British Soldier being executed on the spot for not getting out of a trench quick enough or on returning to that trench - NOT ONE SINGLE INSTANCE OF IT.