"deliberately lied" - Come on Jom give us an example of that (I mean to say according to you our lies as so abundant you should be able to come with such an example fairly quickly)

"he has had the facts pointed out to him and refuss to respond"
- What facts Jom? - you would not know a fact if it jumped up and bit you. One of your facts for example Kitchener was forced to resign" according to Jom the infallible yet the record shows that Lord Kitchener was made Secretary of State for War on the 5th August 1914 and died in that post on the 6th June 1916. And who was that historian and former World War 1 Stretcher Bearer according to Jom the infallible who is still alive and thus managed to outlive the last known veteran of the First World War.

Don't you dare to tell me of lies Carroll your posts are riddled with them. Perhaps you actually should take some time out and practice setting out posts that are lucid and coherent instead of the poorly written garbled nonsense you usually produce.

Another atrocious and baseless allegation made against men who can no longer defend themselves without one shred of substantive evidence to back it up was the utter nonsense about men being forced over the top at gun-point, about summary executions (And yes YOUR STORY DID CHANGE first Military Police were responsible then it became special groups assigned to the task - then you latched onto the Harry Patch interview [edited no doubt by the BBC] supplied by Raggy) And the "evidence" you put forward for this is hearsay from someone who didn't even bother to check if they had ever served in the Army, and a story you heard at third hand - In some ways Jim I really do wish they still had the death penalty where you live and I would then like to see you condemned solely on the basis of what you say constitutes evidence - thankfully to establish proof of anything you need a damn sight better evidence than seems to suit you.