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Thread #158817   Message #3762211
Posted By: GUEST,Dave
01-Jan-16 - 11:13 AM
Thread Name: History and mythology of WW1
Subject: RE: History and mythology of WW1
Teribus quotes Edward Grey, as some length:

"And I do not believe, whether a great power stands outside this war or not, it is going to be in a position at the end of it to exert its superior strength."

Exerting superior strength, thats what its all about, not the interests of the working people.

"For us, with a powerful fleet, which we believe able to protect our commerce, to protect our shores, and to protect our interests, if we are engaged in war, we shall suffer but little more than we shall suffer even if we stand aside."

Commerce, shores, interests, not a mention of the people anywhere

"We are going to suffer, I am afraid, terribly in this war, whether we are in it or whether we stand aside."

Not him though, not Sir Edward Grey, the suffering is something to be done by the lower orders

"Foreign trade is going to stop, not because the trade routes are closed, but because there is no trade at the other end. "

Thats what its all about, trade and the interests of the mercantile classes, of whom Sir Edward Grey was very much a scion.

Wikipedia says a bit about Sir Edward Grey, descendent of baronets, related to other politicians, privilege all over the place, and this bit about his time in Oxford:

"Grey subsequently became even more idle, using his time to become university champion at real tennis. In 1882 his grandfather died and he inherited a baronet's title, an estate of about 2,000 acres (8.1 km2), and a private income. Returning to the University of Oxford in the autumn of 1883, Grey switched to studying jurisprudence in the belief that it would be an easier option, but by January 1884 he had been expelled. Nonetheless, he was allowed to return to sit his final examination. Grey returned in the summer and achieved Third Class honours."

An idle child of privilege who only obtained a degree because of bending of the rules, not stated there but one suspects that daddy had pulled a few strings.

A third rate scholar and a fourth rate human being. Remind you of anyone else from Oxford, a bit later??

Sir Edward Grey was a big part of the problem, and if revolution had come to Britain he would have been one to get his come-uppance in a very big way.