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Thread #158817   Message #3762994
Posted By: Jim Carroll
05-Jan-16 - 04:44 AM
Thread Name: History and mythology of WW1
Subject: RE: History and mythology of WW1
"I learn history from the history books."
You keep saying that Keith and you keep getting it wrong - Hastings, Christine Kennealy, Sheffield, Margaret McMillan, The Famine, Historical revisionism now the left's attitude to the war.
Your half-arsed abuse of historians sets your foot firmly in your mouth over and over again.
You have yet to prove you have ever read a book - you persistently whinge about postings being too long - remind me, how many pages has Hastings 'Catastrophe' got, or McMillan's doorstep of a book, or Isaac Deuscher's and Robert Conquest's tomes on Stalin - all of which you claim to have read? Give us a break Keith - how thick do you think we are, not to notice such anomalies.
You lied about reading Deuscher/Conquest - you can't even answer a basic question on them
You make super-crass statements about dead historians being irrelevant - proof positive that you don't even understand the disciplines of history, let alone the detail.
You are more interested in proving yourself right than you are actually understand what your historian#s are saying, so you pick out the bits that suit the moment
"I am trying to imagine a history course that requires students to attend lectures on WW1 for ten years!"
We were discussing left politics Keith - not WW1
I told you a long time ago thaty my interest was European political and social history.
For over ten years I was part of a political historical debating group that dealt with the subject - they held regular talks and weekend seminars, produced reading lists and brought together people with similar interests - it was a left-political organisation.
The Workers Education, of whom my Grandfather was an instigator of the seaman's se
ction, did similar things.
"Nothing written for at least twenty years supports the old myths that you still cling to."
Yo have yet to prove you know what has been written in the last twenty years
I've told you - I see it pointless to swap historians with you - the fact that you confine your arguments to the last twenty years yet are unable to give one single example of new evidence having been found in that period, really does make you a total waste of space as far as debating is concerned - your supreme ignorance on every subject you have ever argued underlines that fact.
"Start your own thread on it Jom"
Why should I bother Cookie - your failure to respond to one single point I have made tells me everything I need to know. As for what support I would get - do you really claim you have support for your right-wing extremism here - little evidence of it if you have - just a squalid little bunch of Homophobes, Islamophobes and downright racists who nip in and out to give you assistance when you are blowing for tugs.
Jim Carroll