We are agreeing, Joe. And I must say that I've always felt uneasy with the term "abortion on demand" with its tendentious undertones. In this of all debates we need to avoid that kind of expression.

If you want to start a thread about when life begins, pete, carry on. You won't find me contributing. In addition, you appear to be extremely confused about what's being said in this thread. I also note that in your post you do not mention the women involved once. Says it all, doesn't it?