"I said, "No decent democratic country holds Israel responsible for any atrocity or massacre."
That stands"
What "stands" Keith is that you have been presented with the running order of the Sabra Shatila massacre and Israel's facilitating it - you have no answer other than to scurry behind you "real democratic countries" gambit.
Israel has been several massacres throughout its existence.
Respected Jewish Historian, Benny Morris (look him up, if you don't know him ('m sure Mike does) wrote that "Jewish forces were responsible for 24 massacres during the war.[1] Aryeh Yizthaki attests to 10 major massacres with more than 50 victims each.[6] Palestinian researcher Salman Abu-Sitta records 33, half of them occurring during the civil war period.[6] Saleh Abdel Jawad has listed 68 villages where acts of indiscriminate killing of prisoners, and civilians took place, where no threat was posed to Yishuv or Israeli soldiers.[7]"
Apart from these, there were the massacres carried out by Israeli Freedom fighters hurling grenades into occupied homes - massacres one and all.
The Israeli soldiers who were interviewed during the Six day war described the massacres of Arab prisoners of war, followed by the massacres of those selected to bury them - you claimed to have seen the programme, so you are fully aware of this.
Sabra/Shatila is down to Israel - don't need your "real democratic countries" - the facts (and your silence) speak for themselves.
Bombing occupied schools, hospitals, old peoples centres and occupied homes, as happened in 20114 constitute massacres - the fact that Israel is moving heaven and earth to not be tried for these massacres doesn't make them any less massacres.
I'm sure you'll put all these down to "Anti-Israeli lies - not a problem for the rest of us - we're well used to it.
Must go - Casualty starts soon - hope that doesn't turn out to be yet another massacre!!
G'night all!!
Jim Carroll