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Thread #158999   Message #3767906
Posted By: Jim Carroll
25-Jan-16 - 05:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Subject: RE: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
"Jim, put your "facts" up one at a time unless you are afraid of seeing them knocked down one at a time."
You've had the facts - treat them as you like or don't - your choice - I've had what I want from you - anything further would be an icing on the cake, but I'm really not into sweet things too much.
Fact:
Israel has a history of massacres dating to the beginning - Benny Morris, leading Israeli historian lists 24 of them, others give more.
Yo claim he is disputed, but you refuse to tell us by whom, so we can only assume by you.
Massacres took place in the fifites, sixties seventies, 80s,,, in fact, up to the present day
Example)
"The Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, also known as the Ibrahimi Mosque massacre or Hebron massacre,[1] was a shooting massacre carried out by American-Israeli Baruch Goldstein, also a member of the far-right Israeli Kach movement. On February 25, 1994, Goldstein opened fire on a large number of Palestinian Muslims who had gathered to pray inside the Ibrahimi Mosque (also Mosque of Abraham), at the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, West Bank. It took place on February 25, 1994, during the overlapping religious holidays of both Jewish Purim and Muslim Ramadan.[2][3] The attack left 29 people dead and 125 wounded.[4] Goldstein was only stopped after he was overpowered and beaten to death by survivors."
Wiki

Prisoners of war were shot py order of the officers during the Six Day War - you alone dispute thei, but refuse to point out why - though you claim to have seen the film

Sabra/Shatila facilitated by Israel - done and dusted
You refuse to defend your argument - the ones that have beren put up stand.

You claim Israel was not responsible for what happened in 2014 though no enquiry (other than the rigged one by Friends of Israel) has taken place and Israel is fighting to ascertain none takes place - you refuse to justify this.
We know how many people, including women and children - Isarel killed - we know how mnay hospitals, schools and public clinics and care homes were destroyed, we don;t know how many homes were destroyed because there were too many to count, certainly many thousands, we know that many of the homes, hospitals and other buildings were occupied (in one case, by order of the Israelis).... all this is common knowledge, yet Isreal refuses to stand trial and you continue to deny it.
Your overall claim is Israel did none of tehse things because they said so
You say the eye witnesses, human rights workers, medical workers, press, and other neutral observers' words are not to be trusted and instead, we should trust the fact that countries continue to do business with them (that lets Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, China, Russia, Syria...... and all the other human rights abusers and mass murderers off the hook).
As I said, I've got what I came for - you have shamelessly humiliated yourself again.
If you feel like answering any of these feel free - I realy do look forward to it.
Everything I claim has been backed by masses of evidence - all you have to offer is 'Israel says they didn't do it' and 'trust the politicians' - yheah, right!!
"Of course he fails to mention that these terrorists were killed while in the act of killing or trying to kill Jews"
No they were't, or if they were, nobody has ever claimed that they were Brucie
Show us your evidence otherwise stand with your friend as an appeasers of massacres and human rights abusers
Even Terrytoon has stayed away from this garbage - wisely
Jim Carroll