Actually, Trump and Sanders are alarming to the 'establishment' parties, of which most of you are products of! Both parties do NOT seem to appreciate the fact, that both of them have gained support from citizens who are sick and tired of the crony bullshit in Washington, and the lies and deception that goes with it...AND, which has been sanctioned and protected by BOTH parties!!! I think when the debates started, neither party expected them to resonate with so many supporters, who have become disillusioned with the way things have turned out, with everyone that they have supported in the past...the total of supporters, between the 'outsiders' bear this out, unequivocally, whether you like it or not!! Supporters of Bush and Clinton are abandoning them like passengers jumping off the Titanic!...even though, Bush never got the traction originally that Hillary got....but they are, in actuality, one in the same....and both funded by the same people, along with Rubio(a Bush underling), and even Cruz is being funded by the same bankers as Hillary....(ever wondered what the terms are of the payback??)...

As to other unanswered matters:

Bugliosi did write a book, but so what?? If Johnny Cochran(lawyer for O.J.) wrote a book, about virtually anything, could you trust that the final summation would be accurate???? Hell no!!...he's a lawyer, lawyers get paid big money to represent things that are not true, as fact...according to his presentation of O.J.'s defense, O.J. was innocent.....but he was paid...and speaking of books that were gone over with a fine tooth comb, there was a book, which they made into a movie,...and even a movie on the intense negotiations to get the first book done accurately, with a fine tooth comb....True story...the Book..'Mary Poppins'!!...as long as you're believing in fairy tales!...but then, as I mentioned earlier, a lot of you are products of the 'establishment', which, of course, is the outcome of the coup, which took place in Dallas, November 22, '63!!....AND, there is a passage in the Warren Report, which actually says..'There are indications that elements of organized crime and the intelligence community may have been involved'.....I guess Bugliosi didn't bother with that....or was paid a lot, (or feared for his life) if he brought out his comb for that one!!....AND, so what if he prosecuted Manson....Manson decided to act as his own lawyer, and the case was pretty solid against him...Bugliosi made a lot of royalties on the movie version on that one, too....

On the other matter, yes, I thought Froggie was asking what I thought, "At what point did it cease to be great? Why, and who was to blame?"

So get over it...I am!!

....Speaking of which, Was America 'great' when Hillary voted FOR, Bush going into Iraq??
(You don't have to answer that...but you COULD think about it!).

As far as Trump and Palin, I don't think having Palin giving her 'sing-songy' endorsement of him, added to his validity or non-validity....it was rather much like a cartoon!!

GfS