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Thread #158999   Message #3769403
Posted By: Keith A of Hertford
30-Jan-16 - 01:24 PM
Thread Name: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Subject: RE: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Jim,
Are you suggesting that the Holcaust Survivors statement was a fake?

Of course not, but what is your point?
There are many people who strongly support one side or the other, but quoting them is not evidence for one side or the other.
They are expressing opinions not evidence.

Alvin H. Rosenfeld (professor of English and Jewish Studies and director of Institute for the Study of Contemporary Antisemitism at Indiana University.) says they are a minority.

"Most Holocaust survivors, like most Jews, are Zionists and are strongly devoted to the welfare of the State of Israel. The IJSN/IJAN group is exceptional in its fierce opposition to Israel and is hardly representative. That fact, however, did not keep the BBC from quickly publishing a story with the title "Holocaust survivors condemn Israel." The impression conveyed is seriously misleading."

He says,
"What makes the IJSN statement noteworthy, therefore, is not the litany of emotionally-charged accusations against Israel but the identities of those making these accusations. They present themselves as "Survivors," "Children of survivors," "Grandchildren of survivors," "Great-grandchildren of survivors," and "Other relatives of survivors."
They total 327 people."

"If we take their self-descriptions at face value, some (a small number) had been in the Nazi ghettos and camps or claim to have been resistance fighters. Others had been children spirited out of Europe on the Kindertransports or were hidden by Christians during the war. Some say they are "cousins of survivors," or "friends of survivors," or "relatives of victims," or "relatives of many victims," or the "spouse of a hidden child," or grandchildren and great-grandchildren of "refugees." One identifies herself as "the great niece of an uncle who shot himself"; another as a "3rd cousin of Ann [sic] Frank and grand-daughter of NON-survivors."
http://forward.com/opinion/israel/204790/moral-emptiness-of-holocaust-survivors-who-took-on/



So, their opinions are just opinions, not evidence against Israel, and
few of them are really "survivors" at all.
http://forward.com/opinion/israel/204790/moral-emptiness-of-holocaust-survivors-who-took-on/