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Thread #158999   Message #3769486
Posted By: Keith A of Hertford
30-Jan-16 - 08:09 PM
Thread Name: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Subject: RE: BS: Terrorism, Again (Israel)
Steve,
I demolished him over his falsehoods with regard to Geoffrey Wheatcroft.

Not true. I had already quoted him in full, and later gave a partial quote. There was no deception and your attempted "demolition" fell flat.

Jim,
Benny Morris listed 27 massacres -

Do you mean in 1948 Jim?
This is what he really says about it.

"When you take into account that there was a bloody civil war here and that we lost an entire 1 percent of the population, you find that we behaved very well."

"There is no justification for acts of rape. There is no justification for acts of massacre. Those are war crimes. But in certain conditions, expulsion is not a war crime. I don't think that the expulsions of 1948 were war crimes."

" Compared to the wars of other nations, the number of these criminal acts is low. But it is true that if you compare this to the behavior of the Israeli army in other wars, there were more black deeds in 1948. There were people who lost control of their inhibitions. There were people who came out of the death camps in Europe and this stuck in their minds. They wanted to take revenge on the goyim [non-Jews]. There were men who fought for an entire year because the Arabs forced them to fight. They felt they were coerced into war, and they wanted to avenge the deaths of their comrades in arms. Every nation has stains on its history. And the black deeds in this war are one of the stains on our history. "

"One also should remember that we did not win easily, and to lose 1 percent of the population (around 5,800 killed on the Israeli side) is a very high percentage. Numbers like these would be intolerable in a normal society."