Jim: Not sure why I am bothering to engage with you yet again, as you appear to me to be of all my online acquaintance the prime exemplar of the "Mind·made·up·please·do·not·confuse·with·facts" syndrome. But there are nevertheless many things I do respect about you; so will simply ask, in mild tones:-

If "disappointed" is too mild a term to satisfy you as to my feeling abut how Israel has turned out after all our youthful labours and hopes for it, so you lump me in your blanket denunciation of all who have the temerity to differ with the opinions of the egregiously impeccably-opinioned J Carroll, what word would you prefer or suggest instead?

Steve: Agree with you about many things too; but can't make out where you are coming from in associating yourself with the scaredikatz who denounce UKIP as being indistinguishable from the NF & BNP & such when it is a respectable party whose admirable aim is to get us out of the stinking EU which we should never have joined in the first place only pathetic·bleeding·Heath wanted his vile name to go down in history. I voted for UKIP & shall again [if I live till the next election -- 84 this year!]. & what do you want to make of it, eh!? Bloody impertinence, thus denouncing the way I exercise my own free vote! Surprised at you!

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