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Thread #159128   Message #3772268
Posted By: Jim Carroll
12-Feb-16 - 01:49 PM
Thread Name: BS: Zika vs anti-abortion cults
Subject: RE: BS: Zika vs anti-abortion cults
"Jim, Abortion is not legal in Ireland in cases of rape, incest or foetal anomalies."
I am aware of that Keith - what's your point?
"So Ireland is united on this, "
I suggest you look at how far the Republic has come and compare it with how far little Britain across the border hasn't.
If by "Ireland" you mean the politicians and the establishment (as you usually do" - our lot has taken a few tottering steps and is still ahead of your lot.
I think in terms of the people of Ireland, not its politicians.
It is significant that what is being considered first is a referendum - can only ever remember participating in one of those before we left (on the Common Market) - we tend to have them on important issues.
There is an incredible amount of hypocrisy in Ireland over the question of pregnancy termination - the state are happy to leave things as they are happy to turn their backs on the many thousands of girls who nip over to Britain to have the procedure carried out - a sort of penalty for "getting into trouble' now the Madeleine Laundries have shut their doors .
When push comes to shove, as with hanging, same-sex- marriage and homosexuality in general, this issue should transcend a vote to find the will of the people and is a basic human rights issue - you wouldn't accept a referendum on whether it was right to gas the Jews - it's a basic evil, yet it was widely accepted in Germany.
Hopefully within my lifetime, this will be looked back on as part of our barbaric past.
It's interesting to note that many of those who incorrectly describe themselves as 'Pro-Life couple the issue with homosexuality - both "evil" even though both are fully accepted in the modern world, and termination is described as "murder – which makes the British, amd the majority of the rest of the world "murderers" – I do hope you lock your doors securely each night as you seem to be surrounded by killers.
You're still not explaining your own position - another 'Devil's advocate moment, no doubt.
Jim Carroll