"Jim, in UK bishops have an input in law making."
Different situation here, and you should know it
The Jesuits put it perfectly
"Give me a child for for his first seven years and I'll give you the man"
They don'y need the laws, they have had the minds of the people from birth - and they are fighting tooth and nail to retain that grip, despite everything that has happened.
Go away Keith - you are arguing with someone whose entire family grew up under the shadow of the Church - not your 'pretend' wishy-washy Christianity that allows you to support mass-murder and denigrate other religions, but the real thing.
Go away and stop spoiling this discussion - our dialogue is done.
Jim Carroll