Rationally? Brainwashing? Ideology?

In case you hadn't noticed Joe, your lot are the ones expecting loyalty to a concept that is irrational. You don't arrive by reason to an idea of telling a fantasy concept that you are impure or need saving. You don't work on an idea that someone lived amongst other humans whose mother was a virgin, that his conjuring tricks were something other than that, that he died and still walked amongst others, that his father was a god, that babies who a priest hasn't thrown water on can't go to the same mythical land as others when they die... I shan't go on, you know the stories far better than I do

You can say what you like but churches talk of obedience, living your life to a script provided by them and interfering in the lives of all, including those not impressed by bigotry and not in need of comfort blankets.

That Jesuit quote Jim keeps repeating about giving them a child? Yeah, if every member of a cult made a choice as an adult having never been influenced by superstition as s child, how would your billion stack up?

Brain washing indeed Joe...,.