Jack says: His father beamed down a Hawaiian shirt, Bermuda shorts, flip-flops and a "kiss me quick" hat, but the disciples couldn't bring themselves to describe it.

Hey, Jack, that's how He looks on those packets of Zig-Zag cigarette papers!

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PFR sez: And the saviour said "I'll be back !!!"

Somehow, I can't picture Arnold Schwarzenegger playing The Redeemer...

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Steve Shaw sez: All I want is your evidence. I don't expect a direct, honest reply, of course.

That's the whole deal with faith Steve. People choose to believe, without evidence. My faith tradition has been very rich and fulfilling to me, and I like being a believer and I am convinced that my believing does nobody any harm. If that's not satisfactory, then feel free not to believe. What I can't understand, is why you feel so compelled to deride and attack people who do believe. Although you deny that you do this, your compulsion is clear.
There's nobody here at Mudcat who promotes religion; but yet it's clear that there are many here who feel free to attack and insult it. Why is that? And for that matter, is there anyone here who attacks and insults and derides nonbelief?
The choice to believe or not to believe is a very personal decision. I don't think anyone has a right to question or challenge or deride my decision, as long as I don't try to force my faith on anyone else - and I never have, unless you feel you have some right to question my bringing my children up in a church. I don't think you have a right to question how I raise my children, either - and you certainly will never really know how I raised them. You can only speculate, and that sort of speculation is none of your business. There are aspects of other peoples' personal lives that are best left for them to determine. And your derision is not welcome, thankyouverymuch. I suppose you think you have a right to demand me to defend the kind of car I drive, too, huh? And the names I gave my children? And the woman I chose to marry?

-Joe-