Ah yes, got that slightly amiss. The dogma (just as ridiculous, actually) came four years earlier, when it was decreed that the Immaculate Conception was unassailable. A childish and unnecessary add-on if ever I saw one. But listen to that programme if possible. I didn't detect any official discouragement. They hadn't made their minds up.

Out of date, definitely, but I went to Lourdes in 1965. It was full of tacky little gift shops selling cheap plaster virgins and sacred hearts. But I did do the Stations. I think my mum still has the cheap virgin I bought for my gran for a franc or two. A little statue, I hasten to add. I've always tended towards shop-soiled rather than virgins myself.