Backswoodsman, I think you and I have got crossed wires somewhere.

When Ake suggested he didn't know who had suggested Americans should not visit Europe perhaps he was trying to deflect criticism away from the mudcat poster who did suggest such a thing.

I'm not sure how Trump came into the discussion. I think I'm confused AND I've not been drinking .............. yet.

You will note I have not mentioned that mudcat poster as I'm on my best behaviour!