Religious people aren't as certain as they used to be about what happens after death. But I think many would say that they believe that somehow, it will all be OK after death. They see something beyond, but they don't know what it is.

And Steve Shaw, still trying to defend his right to attack, says:

Well, apart from forcing the point yet again about your sacred and treasured things, you could've been talking about the values of every atheist I know. There is absolutely nothing special about religious traditions, and there's plenty wrong with every one of them. Religion has no monopoly on virtue. In many ways, the opposite.

Dearest Steve, we're all enlightened people here. I don't think anyone here has argued that religious people are special or that they have a monopoly on virtue. Neither are atheists. But all deserve to be respected and tolerated, and not derided or redefined. All have something to contribute to the diversity of this world.

-Joe-