Please people don't start reversing the good that has come about by Max's intervention, you are starting to behave like those we lately got rid of.
There is no call for ridicule, Keith is making salient points without demeaning you in any way.
If you cannot answer him on what is an extremely serious issue don't post.

Dave, why are you posting to this thread, you obviously have no interest in the subject, 90% of your posts are snide personal comments. That is my definition of trolling.

Lets keep things peaceful if you want to have fun open a joke thread or a nonsense thread