Well I did think that "dearest Steve" (twice, once after my protestations) and "Steviebaby" were patronising and hardly designed with keeping the peace in mind.   If it's about setting a tone, that isn't the way to do it. I've attacked ideas on this thread, not individuals. And I've said what my ideas are, and you're free to attack them back. That is the way it should be. Instead, Joe, you accuse us of caricaturing religion and say it's like having a conversation with Donald Trump. You referred to "my protestations that in Great Britain, such insults are considered to be friendly banter, I don't think most Britons would agree" when I never said any such thing, or anything like it. You don't like religion threads, that's clear. But try not to have us thinking that you're out to shut them down just because you feel got at. The only thing that's sacred to me is the truth, and the only path to truth I see is via evidence and reason. I don't have a naturally thick skin but I find that helps.

And Dave, where's me bloody ten bob!