A thing in and of itself may or may not be perceived to be a thing and possess an element of thingness whether or not the thing is real or imagined, although the qualities of thingness do not vary regardless of the perception of that one particular thing and its relationship to other things without regard to their individual qualities or state of being.

I ask you....Soren or the Shrub? .............Its gonna' be a long 4 years...................

Spaw