Straw ............ clutch ........... straw ........ Once again Cherriblossom you are trying to divert the conversation away the main thrust.

Stick to the point.

One British gun fired on another British gun, the second British gun having been "borrowed" from the ship of the first.

Brill !!!

PS Before you deny this, you have gone along with this scenario for some little time before you worked out it didn't match up to your preconceived ideas.