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Thread #159827   Message #3788681
Posted By: Steve Shaw
04-May-16 - 09:36 PM
Thread Name: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
I'm a very simple man. You're an antisemite if you demonise a person because he is a Jew. You are not an antisemite because you criticise his country, his actions, his government or his dad. In the latter cases, you may well be wrong, but you are not being antisemitic. Israel wishes to be regarded as a Jewish state. Personally, I don't think that's wise, when a quarter of its population are not Jewish. Equally, I don't think it's wise to criticise "Israel." Far better to be specific and criticise the Israeli regime, specifying the actions it takes that you see as objectionable, which are manifold. If you state that Israel should be wiped off the map, you're a fool, because that is neither possible nor desirable, but it isn't an an antisemitic statement if you mean that you object to the creation of the state of Israel after WW2. If you mean that Jews should be wiped off the map, that's different. If you say that Israel is acting like Nazi Germany, you're being an idiot but you're not being antisemitic. You are being antisemitic if you say that Jews are like Nazis. Anyway, that's how I see it. I don't think Ken Livingstone said anything that was technically wrong, but I do think that his timing was execrable. I sort of like Ken, but Christ knows what he was thinking of when he said what he did.