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Thread #159827   Message #3790608
Posted By: Steve Shaw
16-May-16 - 10:29 AM
Thread Name: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
Subject: RE: BS: (UK) Whither the Labour Party
You still haven't been to Specsavers, have you, cowardly-trolling-outed-ex-anonymous Guest? Jonathan Freedland is explaining to the interviewer WHAT IS BEING DISCUSSED. He is not saying that the Labour Party is antisemitic. He says what I've said from the start, that there may be a few rotten apples. As for who should investigate, well who would you suggest? The police? An all-party committee? No crime has been committed as far as we know. So who? Come along, I want to know! Oops, sorry, I forgot that neither you nor Keith are ever capable of answering questions or backing up your assertions. I like Jonathan Freedland a lot. But when he says "And then the other is a criticism of Israel's right to exist, which again I think there is a way of arguing that that is completely legitimate" I profoundly disagree with him. Israel is a reality that has been with us for almost seventy years and no-one has the right to suggest that we dismantle it. The state of Israel consists of millions of Jewish, Arab and neither-of-the-above families who are largely blameless for the political situation. Our aim should be to make it a secure, peaceful and fair homeland for everyone who lives there. The policies of the latest and previous regimes militate against that, sadly. I don't care what my allies in these threads think about that, to me that discussion is destructive and should be off the agenda. I want the Israeli regime to behave much better, to stop its racism towards Palestinians and to have its military aid made conditional on that. Once that happens, the threats from outside will cease. Everyone has an interest in peace, security and prosperity that trumps war and human rights abuse every time. These constant, perverted attempts by supporters of Israel to turn Jewish people back into victims are deplorable and they get in the way of a peaceful solution. They actually hurt the people they are supposed to be supporting. And you two are the worst offenders on that score here by a country mile. And at least one of you calls US "Jew-haters."