I am in agreement with pretty much everyone. Having been one who tried out for chorus when in grade school and was handed a pair of sticks and told to sit on the "group W" bench, I've often wondered what a little instruction in breathing would have done for me. No matter, I've always loved to sing, and haven't let lack of natural ability stop me. As to Joe's point about group singing,my best friend couldn't find a tune with the world's best GPS, but at a party with kara-yucky, I coerced him in to singing Stewart's "Daydream Believer" with me, and he didn't sound any worse than I did. Damn the torpedoes and all that! SING OUT. Mike