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Thread #160019   Message #3794133
Posted By: Stanron
06-Jun-16 - 03:12 PM
Thread Name: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
Subject: RE: BS: To Br/Exit Or Not To Br/Exit
As some body has already pointed out, when we voted last, in the seventies, we were already a member of the European Economic Community. We were voting to remain or leave just like we are now. We did not know then that the intention was to become a United States of Europe. This information was kept hidden, presumably because the planners did not trust the electorate to share their vision.

So the first strike against the idea and actuality of the EU is it's intrinsic dishonesty and it's usurpation of democracy. It's a tyranny.

The idea itself is worthy. After two world wars in the first half of the 20th century some sort of arrangement was needed to prevent a third. The idea of a United States of Europe was the solution. This idea is now about 70 years old. Very few people today drive a 70 year old car, I'd bet that nobody uses a 70 year old computer or telephone. The world has changed enormously in 70 years but the idea behind the EU has not changed. It has not adapted to a vastly changed world and is probably not capable of doing so.

So the second strike against the EU is it's inflexibility. It's getting to be a bit of a fossil.

Do you guys on the sunset side of the pond know that for the last 20 years the EU has not been able to present a verified set of accounts? No one knows what's happening to the money. Or if they do know they are not telling.

So strike three is that the EU is either corrupt or incompetent, or both. It does not take good care of OUR money.

Then there's the Parliament. Every country in the EU already has a parliament of elected reprersentatives. Why do we need an additional layer of government above the government we have? Is it just more highly paid jobs for the boys? This EU Parliament cannot initiate legislation. It can only vote on legislation proposed by an unelected committee of appointees. Oh, and the whole Parliament ups sticks for one week in every month and moves from Brussels to Strasbourg. Why? To satisfy French Pride.

So strike four is also parts of strike one and three. More democratic deficit. More wasted money and more, almost criminal, stupidity.

Guess how I'll vote.

There is still merit in the idea of a united Europe. It's the current implementation that is so completely flawed. Whilst the EU is incapable of reform, we should leave.

Oh yes, one final point. If you would really want to wipe the fat smirks from the faces of David Cameron and George Osbourne, and I'm sure some of you do, then vote LEAVE when you get the chance.