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Thread #160033   Message #3794215
Posted By: Donuel
07-Jun-16 - 07:51 AM
Thread Name: BS: Logic and the laws of science
Subject: RE: BS: Logic and the laws of science
"Behold the great Boeing 747-800 almost a million pounds with miles of wired sensors and engines that can push the airliner halfway around the world. Sleek elegant design that only an intelligent designer could build. If a fierce tornado passed through warehouses and junk yards swirling with intense randomness you would never produce a 747 assembled and ready to fly. Never would the miles of wound wire and turbine blades coalesce on their own.
It would take a creator, it would take a miracle".

This is Hoyle's fallacy,
also known as the Junkyard tornado, describes a hypothetical tornado that passes through a hypothetical junkyard resulting in chaos. Proponents of Intelligent Design erroneously assume that because the ensuing chaos does not produce some sort of complex, man-made device (for example, a Boeing 747), that various processes of evolution, abiogenesis or other origins theory are equally unlikely.
The "Tornado in a Junkyard" analogy is an example of an argument by false analogy, a logical fallacy. It is also an example of denying the antecedent: when confronted with the claim that adding energy to a system can give rise to complexity, creationists simply present an example of a situation where adding energy to a system does not give rise to complexity.

In other words the 747 did evolve over billions of years first in matter and the elements then in conditions on an obscure planet where life forms learn the art of flight and the another species learns how to mimic that flight mechanically. The 747 is then created by engineers, workers and programed machines.
It was created given the fullness of time, not in the instant violence of a tornado.

Yep no doubt about it, it was created.