Well, Keith, I'm a patient man. Apart from the blatant Wheatcroft misquote, which you want me to stop mentioning (simple way of achieving that: admit it. Even Teribus knows you made a mistake, though "honest mistake" could be pushing it a bit), you misrepresented Jackie Butler by leaving inconvenient bits out of the quote (a misquote, in other words) and you misrepresented me by trying to bracket me with people who are ardently pro-Israel. It's all silly, avoidable behaviour that never helps your case and, worst of all, you never, ever backtrack. Pig-headedness, mindless stubbornness and hubris can't see you through. Very sad.