This guy has been requested to stop - both of us were requested by Joe to lay off the name-calling

YOU might have been, I can believe that, as far as I am certain I HAVE NOT.

so when you describe the Irish as gullible, hate-filled and brainwashed people who have no concept of their history and only demanded independence because they were conned into doing so by foreigners

So when have I described the Irish people as such? Example please - I know I won't get one - yet another baseless accusation formed because JOM didn't bother to read what had been written:

Chief Hugh O'Neill was not the Irish people and he did not represent them when he tried to sell Ireland out to the Spaniards whilst seeking self advancement.

Wolfe Tone was not the Irish people and did not represent them when he tried to land with 14,000 French troops in the 1790s.

Robert Emmet was not the Irish people and did not represent them when he tried to organise the same stunt in 1803.

Pearse and the rest of the magnificent seven did not represent the Irish people in 1916 when they colluded with the Germans and destroyed the centre of Dublin.

Go back and check I specifically stated it was the leaders of these armed uprisings I described as gullible. I have described the "men of the gun" as hated filled. But c'mon Jim break the habit of a lifetime and provide us with just one example if you don't/can't them the entire forum will know that you are talking out of your arse.