"I am not trying to censor discussion."
That is exactly what you and your mate are doing
Both of you appear totally incapable of grasping what you are doing.
I had no intention of discussing Sabra Shatila - I used it as an example of the nature of the regime that has generated accusations against the Labour party and also as an example of something that, if discussed critically, becomes Antisemitism to Israel and her supporters.
You have managed to turn the spotlight directly on it enabling me to detail exactly what happened - many thanks for that opportunity, I will take up your generous offered opportunity and repeat the sequence of events:
"Israel facilitated, armed the killers, provided them with transport, opened the gates, provided flares so the massacre could go on for three nights, turned refugees trying to escape back into the camp, drove the killers to the airport, provided bulldozers to bury the bodies, then built a stadium over the mass graves so nobody could aver calculate how many were murdered (3,500 unarmed refugees)- have I forgotten anything oh yas, nearly forgot, then elected the officer responsible Prime Minister "
Had you just let it pass, I would have moved on, having made my point but you couldn't resist appeasing yet another Israeli atrocity.
Your "challenge" of this atrocity was and remains "Israel says they didn't do it" - you have even been forced to admit that you are just putting their point of view..
Discussing it with people like you is as pointless as it gets - the fcacts are now fully accepted and we all know in advance what your arguments are - "Israel is innocent".
I will raise this matter whenever I feel it appropriate to do so - that's what democracy is all about.
Jim Carroll