Donuel sez: My original contention that Joe was really letting intelligent design in through the back door past the hallway of logic and into BSstill works.

Huh? If so, I'm not aware of it. To have Intelligent Design, one needs an external designer - I think. Nonetheless, I think that things have properties that make sense, and have interactions that make sense. It's cause and effect, not random and not chaos. Things follow patterns that we can study, comprehend, and predict.

I'm a tinkerer, and I understand machines and materials better than organisms. But for the most part, I think organisms are just organic machines.

-Joe-