Well then 'Wolfie' my little ALW, when it comes to discussion on this forum I am not hampered and tied by your bankrupt, disproven, tired and outdated clichés, mind-set, inverted snobbery and Anglophobia that belong to half-a-century ago.

Your new pal was wrong and if you want to talk of anybody making a fool of themselves on this forum you just continue as you have been doing. If you want two words to describe the Brussels set up that accurately reflects them those words would be corrupt and unaccountable.

IF you think I am talking down to you Carroll then the remedy is simple - RAISE YOUR GAME by trying a bit of original thought and application.

Kenny B if it is thoughts of venal gain that concern you. Where is your condemnation for the Kinnocks who acquired over £10 million supping at the EU trough and acting as paid political lackeys in their own right sitting in the House of Lords.