If and then are logical. This and that are beyond logic.
If this and that are wrong, there is no amount of logic that can fix it. No matter how much we may have of this or that, without if and then, nothing is logical. And without this or that, there is nothing to reason about. But still it may be real.
this that this that - not logical if if then then - not about anything
Logic is about order, equations, and various permutations of any given statement about other things that already must exist. Logic helps us understand the world and better participate in it, but the world is not logic itself. The world is beyond logic. It is a puzzle that exists. Experiences still need a place to exist, logical or not.
Every statement of substance originates outside logic. Remove all substance and we are left with pure mathematics - a form of deep abstract puzzle soving. Thank goodness life is not math, but we have mathematicians to thank, along with everyone else, for all the abstract puzzle solving that has eventually improved our lives/comfort. In your room physicists beond number are respondsible for almost everything in your room, with the obvious exception of you.