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Thread #160090   Message #3798984
Posted By: Richie
04-Jul-16 - 12:15 PM
Thread Name: Origins: Drowsy Sleeper
Subject: RE: Origins: Drowsy Sleeper
Steve,

I've added Roud numbers when possible. I'm not really sure what number should be on the versions that are mixed with other songs. For example, "Oh Molly Dear" by B. F. Shelton is listed as Roud 22620 but it only has one Drowsy Sleeper out of seven stanzas. Is one stanza enough? What about all the other mixed versions from the US? Here's a partial list:

I. [Versions that include stanzas of the Drowsy Sleeper text]
   a. "The Gold Ring" Andros Island, Bahamas; Parsons 1918
   b. "O Hatty Bell."- Sung by Mrs. Godfrey of Marion, NC on September 3, 1918 from Sharp MS
   c. "O! Molly Dear Go Ask Your Mother" Kelly Harrell" recorded June 9, 1926 in New York City.
   d. "Annie Girl" Hudson JAF, 1926
   e. "Kind Miss" no informant named from American Songbag by Carl Sandburg; 1927.
   f. "Oh Molly Dear" B.F. Shelton recorded on July 29, 1927 in Bristol, Tennessee. Issued as Victor 4017.
   g. "The False Lover" sung by Margaret Combs (KY) 1931 Henry
   h. "Hattie Belle" MS from Greer Collection before 1932; hybrid version of "A Sweetheart in the Army"
   i. "Little Satchel"
   j. "Vandy, Vandy"

These have mostly stanzas from other songs. Several of them are similar composites and could be grouped: "O Hatty Bell," "Annie Girl," "Hattie Belle," and "Vandy, Vandy." They all use the same three songs as a composite. They could be a separate number.

There are several more that have two stanzas from "East Virginia Blues" mixed with Drowsy Sleeper. These should probably be 22621.

Then I'm not sure about the 3 traditional Irish versions of "Sweet Bann Water" which are clearly Drowsy Sleeper but mixed with "Grey Cock." Roud number?

Richie