Ake seriously reminds me of old socialists I used to know 30 odd years ago
when I was a student learning to understand 'everything'..

The recent Brit movie "Pride" excellently depicts that era.

- A time of Working class militants with ingrained regressive attitudes towards 'minorities' and women.. -

His analysis helps stir memories of who I used to be, and what I used to think,
before my mind eventually became fogged & torpid with all the shit life constantly throws at you..
and I find benefit in that while I'm struggling to piece my intellect back together again.....

But Ake.. it's you your conclusions leading you down a blind alley re farage and 'gays' where I part company...

I think you sincerely believe what you say on those subjects.. but like most others here, I can't accept it.
and hope you could positively rethink your position on those issues...???