It's common practice to pick a heading for a thread to get people to come in. Sometimes, as in this case, it isn't too closely related to the intended topic, as in this case.

I'm sure there are people who might admit that they have been rotten parents, and maybe worse people because of being parents. I'd suspect the problem might be further back than that, but it would have been better if they hadn't had children.

And of course there are lots of great people who, for one reason or other haven't had children, in many case through choice.

But I am also sure that many people, and I'd confidently think most people who, whether they recognise it or not, are better people because thay have had children.

Having children means having troubles you might avoid without them. But my experience is that people who managed one way and another to avoid having troubles of one or another tend to be a bit lacking something. Not that there are many, if there are indeed any in the long run. Best get your share of troubles in sooner than later.

But let's not talk about this Andrea Leadweight please...