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Thread #160163   Message #3800226
Posted By: Teribus
14-Jul-16 - 05:24 AM
Thread Name: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
Subject: RE: BS: Whither Scotland, Northern Ireland?
"I do love where you type masses and say nothing"

Really Jom? I appear to have said a great deal more than you, both in terms of detail and accuracy - 10 year old papers that pre-date the financial crisis of 2008 are a bit irrelevant. Now does that serve to cover addressing the long out of date links supplied by you.

"Not interested in Scandinavia other than to show they are above the barbarity of Britain's treatment of the unemployed - which you put forward as an example of how Britain should treat the unemployed - no more."

Ah more spittle-flecked indignation and a classic example of your inability to understand what has been written. Tell me Jom how can me saying in answer to your question relating to the unemployed in the UK:

In the following post - Teribus - 13 Jul 16 - 01:54 PM

Jom said: "as you offer no suggestion of what you intend should happen to the unemployed "scroungers" - it seems pretty well in line with your general attitude to "lazy" workers.
If you don't have the bottle to explain your appalling Toryisms, you must leave us to draw our own conclusions.
The same goes for your itinerant labour force."

To which I said in answer: "The system they use over in Scandinavia seems quite a good model"

So as you uphold and advocate the Scandinavian model as well as I do we are in agreement. The only thing is Jom, I know what the Scandinavian system delivers, I know what contributions in terms of tax go into making it possible, I know those things from experience. Very true that you are not interested in Scandinavia, you cannot even be bothered to research it sufficiently to substantiate your case.

"Respond to the position a British person out of work finds him or herself in and stop trying to create a diversion.
You have yet to tell us where all these cycling workers are going to live as they travel around the country seeking work."


No Jom - YOU tell them, after all you did it quite successfully didn't you? Or is what you have been telling us all a pack of lies? You probably did exactly the same as me. If there is no work in your particular field on your doorstep and you are not prepared to turn your hand to anything else then you cast round and find some other location where your skills can be utilised. that is what any person out of work has to do.

Unfortunately Jom, there are more than enough British youngsters who have never, ever been in work, they have never ever contributed anything to the system that they take from who believe that it is their "right" to live off the state until something comes along that they might like to have a go at. Perhaps while the going is good they should toddle over to "your" Scandinavia - they'd be in for one f**k of a shock.

"Stop bullshitting and tell us how all your Brave New World schemes for the poor are going to be put into operation"

Fortunately for me that is not my job - you appear to be pretty clueless - you are good at pulling things down, not so good at being constructive - I stated that the UK should follow the Scandinavian model which is one that will support anyone who is unemployed for a while then put them into retraining programmes and place them in work - if anyone does not accept retraining or if they do not accept placement in work then things get very, very hard for them, so hard in fact that very, very few people make those mistakes.

The Scandinavian model does not allow unchecked streams of foreigners to arrive in their country and immediately have access to the full benefits of the Norwegian Welfare System.

"what are you going to do about those who can't find work?"

Nothing Jom, I am not an employer, there are no positions open working for me.

"Why have you people closed off one of the main sources of work?"

I haven't and neither has anybody else - you typically are jumping the gun and presenting a problem that at the moment does not exist and most likely will never exist.