The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #160242   Message #3800991
Posted By: Teribus
19-Jul-16 - 07:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Theresa May, failure and hypocrite
Subject: RE: BS: Theresa May, failure and hypocrite
Your original unsubstantiated and unproven claim was that British weapons were killing Syrians in Homs

Keith A and myself asked you substantiate that claim and back it up - as usual you could not do that.

Links to an article in the Daily Mail was the best you could offer and it was from that link that Keith A and I pointed out to you that the British Government had supplied nothing apart from an export licence. The article also stated that it was not known if the ammunition detailed was ever delivered. Which makes the following the second barefaced lie that you have come out with on this thread:

"I have established that they were licences, despite your claims that they weren't"

If you want to challenge any of that I would be more than delighted to dig out the relevant posts, yours, mine Keith A's. We have been through that sort of exercise on another lie you told on this forum and you ended up with egg all over your face - only too delighted to repeat the performance.

The licence that Keith a and I pointed you to mentioned the monetary value of the ammunition to be exported from that you can deduce the quantity of ammunition being talked about. Up until a year ago my main hunting rifle could fire NATO 7.62 x 51 ammunition and I used that for practice ammunition so I know exactly what ex-NATO 7.62 rounds sell for, I know exactly what the gunsmith I bought it from paid for it and what the disposals department sold it for. From that I can arrive at a pretty good estimate of the number of rounds involved.

Link does not work it says the page cannot be found but you get to it easily enough if you just Google Amnesty International Report March 2012

This is all it says about torture involving electricity:

"Electric shock torture appears to be widely used in interrogations. Former detainees described three methods: dousing the victim or cell floor with water, then electro-shocking the victim through the water; the “electric chair”, where electrodes are connected to parts of the body; and the use of electric prods."

No mention of the UK no mention of any equipment supplied by the UK - Jim Carroll you lie like a pig in shit.