Jim - I agree with all of that, but can't see how Labour can continue anyway. The big drift to UKIP and the right has proved that it's not left or right that matters to people, it's that they vote for the people that they believe understand them and will represent their interests in the face of the establishment and big business. The fact that no-one actually does (the Brexiteers were liars after all, and have pissed off anyway) mean they will vote for the person that plays that part, such as Farage and Johnson and however unpleasant the views and concise of that person.

Labour must change, but it truly does't have a clue and I wouldn't vote for them. There is no-one worth voting for at the moment.