Raggy I have long ago accepted that when Jom, Steve & Co (Including yourself) run out of road they follow what is by now a very tired and worn out script. I have got so used to it by now that I barely notice their remarks and idiotic, groundless allegations that both Keith A and myself have continually demonstrated can never be substantiated. Please point out where in that last post of mine I complain or state my "objections" to their ad hominem attacks - I merely commented on the fact that that is what they do. I leave the bleating and complaining to them. They are very good a dishing it out to others then scream like stuck pigs when they get some of their own treatment back. You're like a flock of sheep - not an independent thought among the lot of you, if you had brains you'd be dangerous.